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  • A Two/Seven minute quiz for *non*-German speakers (and a much overdue update)

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    First, the update: The book is chugging along, and will take substantially longer than I had predicted (and will be much better for it!).  So far, I’ve gotten my thoughts, theories and research down on Memory, Pronunciation, Word Learning, Grammar, Vocabulary lists and Mnemonic Use, and the next step (aside from some remaining research and thoughts on Reading/Writing/Listening/Speaking) is reworking it into a friendly, clear presentation that’s an enjoyable book to read (and not a textbook).  As we start cutting textbooky sections out of the book, I’ll be posting them here.

    My current goal, aside from finishing the book, is to provide some high quality pronunciation tools here, because there’s just not very much available that’s easy to use and effective.  

    It’s not *much* of a surprise, but the cutting edge of research in terms of ear training seems to be audio tests with minimal pairs (Bit/Bat, Sit/Sat, Bit/Sit) and immediate feedback (I’m going to say one of two words, either “Bitte” or “Biete”.  You tell me which one I said.  Ready?   “Bitte”. [And whatever you say, it tells you whether you got it wrong or right immediately]).  This would work very well with Anki, and if you collected enough pairs and perhaps different people recording them, you’d get a very effective tool, and Anki would take care of making sure you heard the hardest ones the most often.  So!  I’m planning on making ear training Anki decks for specific language pairs (English-German, etc)

    To that end, I’m conducting research as to the hardest to hear sounds for English speakers.  If you have a spare 7 minutes and you DON’T speak German, can you take a quiz and send me the results?

    The recording is here: http://vocaroo.com/i/s1GVIptcPPQb

    **Edit: If you only have 2 minutes, I’ve split the test into 4 parts (and I’ve tried to go slower), so take whichever one you want.  Please make sure you write down the numbers, so I know which test(s) you’re taking!

    Test 1 (1-27): http://vocaroo.com/i/s0YqASDq5E20 Test 2 (28-54): http://vocaroo.com/i/s141zLhr4uSe Test 3 (55-81): http://vocaroo.com/i/s1liBd3RqrPI Test 4 (82-113): http://vocaroo.com/i/s11y29KV87ZP

    My email (send results here or post them): [email protected]

    What to do: Either open up an email, text program, or reply to this post and get ready to type while listening to the recording (the quiz starts after 60 seconds of explanation).

     

    You’ll hear 113 pairs of words (strick - strock, strick-strick, strück-ströck, etc) and your goal is to write down how different they sound:

    5: Very different (Meat-Mat)

    4: Pretty different (easy to hear: Pfeet, pfit)

    3: Different (Not too hard to hear the difference: Pfüte, Pföte)

    2: Barely different (Hard to hear any difference: Drucken, Drücken)

    1: The same (Mit - Mit)

     

    If you can answer in this format, I’d be much obliged.

     

    Languages spoken: English, Spanish, Whatever

     

    1. 3

    2. 2

    3. 3

    4. 1

    5. 5

    6. 2

    7. 3

    …etc…

     

    I’ll compile the results and put them here once I have.

     

    PS: A heads up: I make mistakes at #44, 86, 89(twice!) and redo them immediately.

     

    4 thoughts on “A Two/Seven minute quiz for *non*-German speakers (and a much overdue update)

    1. gwyner Post author

      If you want to copy a set of numbers, here you go:

      GERMAN SOUND QUIZORAMA

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      1. Juan Carlos

        Language(s) Spoken: English,

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    2. gwyner Post author

      For those who are curious, I’m comparing all possible combinations of the made-up words Streck, Ströck, Struck, Strock, Strack, Strick, and Strück, as well as (separately) Biete, Bete, Bäte, Büte, Böte, Bute, Bote, Bate.
      I didn’t combine long-short pairs (like Hölle-Höhle) because I know that they’re hard already, and combining ALL possible vowels would take forever. (Well not forever, but 15-20 minutes)

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